Porsche Paradise

@GT3LM Not true. only 1% of GTR transmissions have failed. Do not talk about porsche reliability. Old porsche models are full of problems! Skylines have produced over 1600 whp in the past. The new GTR has ran 9.6 seconds @ 150 mph (1/4 mile) on stock transmission. Your sources of information are probably misleading you. Most motor journalists prefer the GTR (that you call a Datsun) to the 997 turbo (which I call an overpriced VW Beetle turbo)

@GT3LM only the 997.2 Turbo costs twice as much, in some countries. And guess what. Spend 5k on the GTR, and it beats the 997.2 even with PDK.

hard information — track time. This is what counts.
I also would like to know, if I can use full-throttle without the car downshifting by itself — this is important for everyday driving.
Acceleration with RPMs limited to below a certain number (e.g. 3000 or 4000) would also be of interest — important for everyday driving.

@Miike92 agreed, double clutch gearboxs are a lot faster than manual, which would obviously cut a few 10th off the Porsches time. The time of the GT-R round the ring has never been verified. The is also talk of the Nissan head mechanic admitting they used cut slicks for the run. Anyhow, i suppose we will never know.

@billybishop911
correct, and it will be interesting to see the gen2 turbo with its paddles go against the GTR. i already heard its got the GTR and ZR1 beat in the straight line.

‘wait until you see my nephew’, this kidd got himself on f1 just because of his name, he hasn’t even managed to finish a race

porsche turbo is better looking

@sfowner32 wow you are leaving in the past. Wake up… Dual clutch are the best transmission on the road except the sequential one. Standard transmission are slow but they are fun to driver. But if you are looking for the best sport car and the fastest one on the track you need this kind of transmission.

@Arai4lpinestars The Z06 is not faster than the 911 or the GTR on the track. Maybe on a 1 mile straight line but not on the track except if it is the ZR1

ofcoarse the brakes stay there lol

@growlybucks another thing: If you own the carrera S with PowerKit@381hp-you have definetly more fun than with the 997 Turbo 1@480hp. Carrera S is a phantastic car. But i hope you had the classical gearbox and not the tiptronic. Tiptronic slows the car down

2nd part–>safe driving but not for maximum dynamics. Here is the difference between the two cars. For example is even the GT3 RS with 415hp faster than the 997 Turbo. One reason is that the turbo from today had other customers as targets as the beasty Turbs like the 930 3.3 /964 3,6. Its now more a competitor for cars like Vantage V12…or even Mercedes benz…so they want comfort. So the GTR is more like a GT2 or GT3RS…a driving machine.The GTR is still asounishing…with this weight so fast